Minutes, IBIS Quality Committee 28 June 2011 11:00-12:00 EST (08:00-09:00 PST) ROLL CALL Cisco Systems: * Mike LaBonte Ericsson: * Anders Ekholm Green Streak Programs: Lynne Green Huawei Technologies: Guan Tao IBM: Bruce Archambeault Greg Edlund IOMethodology: Lance Wang Mentor Graphics: John Angulo Micron Technology: Moshiul Haque, Randy Wolff Nokia Siemens Networks: * Eckhard Lenski Signal Consulting Group: Tim Coyle Teraspeed Consulting Group: * Bob Ross Texas Instruments: Pavani Jella Everyone in attendance marked by * NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. -----------------------MINUTES --------------------------- Mike LaBonte conducted the meeting. Call for opens and IBIS related patent disclosures: - Eckhard would like to discuss an email he sent to the list. AR Review: - Mike send BIRD draft to list - Done - Bob conduct tests of parser behavior - No tests yet - Bob reviewed the BIRD and it looks pretty good New items: Mike showed a list email from Eckhard: - We agreed that there is an error in the IQ spec regarding open sink/source. - It can be corrected by moving two words. AR: Mike add a quail to correct open sink/source in IQ spec 5.6.2 Mike showed the Test Keyword Clarification BIRD draft: - Bob: The analysis section needs an introduction. - Mike: Tim Coyle is agreeable to these changes so far - Mike: We might want to have the parser check for unused [Test Load] - Bob: IBIS originally was about single ended but most models are differential now. - Mike: Should we change "under the [Test Data] keyword"? Mike showed the new external Test document: - Mike: Does this need to be formatted as a BIRD yet? - Bob: Probably not yet - Mike: The [End ***] keywords are only top level - For example [Test Components] does not have one - Bob: It would be awkward to have it for everything - Mike: XML would be better in that case - Bob: The stimulus might go under a test data Anders: It is good to be able to put everything inline - Should [Test Subcircuits] have a name? - Mike: The subckts within it have names - Bob: Maybe [Test Subcircuit] should be limited to one subckt - Bob: We could have SPICE with *[keyword] comments - We would have to write a long description of our new SPICE language - Mike: If we want tests with multiple models we need flexibility - Eckhard: This is like EBD, which tools already know how to handle - This is getting complicated - Bob: We should have limited flexibility like probe points - Mike: IC vendors will have a SPICE setup and will want to easily move that into IBIS golden waveforms - They will not wait for an EDA tool that generates the whole setup - Bob: The silicon SPICE run can take a long time to generate - We will not be successful saying there is a new way of testing - Each tool has it's own scripting language - Will we create a scripting language? - Mike: We should not define a new script language - EDA vendors would have to completely implement it to call themselves compliant AR: Bob send Test Keyword Clarification BIRD additions to Mike Next meetings: - Next meetings July 5 and July 12 July 5 agenda: - Test Keyword Clarification BIRD draft Meeting ended at 12:18 Eastern Time.